This post has been brewing for some time now. Today’s the day I’ve decided to get it off my chest.
Being a full-time blogger is brilliant. I count myself as seriously lucky to write about what I love every day, to be my own boss, to meet fascinating and really nice people on a regular basis who I wouldn’t come into contact with without being in this position.
The thing is though, I often feel like I have to apologise for my job; that being a blogger isn’t a proper profession. Or that making money from it is somehow wrong or dishonest. I’ll level with you readers, this has started to get my back up! More on this later…
Since being back in the UK, I’ve had a lot of friends and acquaintances ask me about blogging. For my friends in Sydney, who see me often and have watched Interiors Addict go from hobby Tumblr to full-time, three-posts-per-day, commercially successful online publication, perhaps the idea of me doing this as a job is kind of normal. Sure, it is unusual to be a full-time blogger in most people’s books (including mine!), but my Australian friends don’t seem that stumped by it.
In England however, nobody seems to be able to get their head around it. Which perhaps suggests we are more advanced in the blogging world in Australia? Or perhaps people just haven’t seen me since I’ve been doing this full-time or they’re wondering how I can afford to travel and work part-time for six months (savings and continuing to work while away, incidentally). Maybe all of the above.
Last week, for example, I caught up with an old colleague I hadn’t seen in six years. After our hello hug, about the very first thing he said was : “I have to ask, how do you make money?” It threw me a bit and when I reflected on it later, it made me wonder how many other people are wondering the same and not being so blatant about asking (and also if there shouldn’t have been other, more important things to ask!). So I’ll tell you!
It isn’t rocket science. I sell advertising. Or rather, because I’m not very good at that stuff and would rather concentrate on what I’m good at (being a trained journalist) and enjoy, I have an agency sell my advertising for me, on commission. You’ll see these ads on the blog and in the newsletter. And occasionally I’ll send an email to my database on behalf of an advertiser. I only accept advertising from companies whose products and services I believe to be relevant to my readers.
So, that’s how I make the majority of my money. When you have tens of thousands of readers and are a lean operation with few overheads, it can certainly earn you decent money. I’m actually better off than I’ve ever been.
The only jobs I’ve ever had since leaving school have been in journalism and publishing so I can safely tell you this is how almost all commercial publications make most of their money too: advertising. So for me, the fact my own publication, which just happens to be a blog, makes money this way too, is pretty straightforward. But perhaps for those of you who haven’t worked in media, it isn’t that obvious. So now you know. Cool?
I also publish sponsored posts from advertisers who want to get their message across in words rather than banner ads. I always disclose if they’re sponsored right at the top because I believe you should know a message is paid for and decide if you want to read it anyway. Hiding the fact that a message is paid for until the end, when you’ve already read it without realising as much, doesn’t sit well with me, but some bloggers do it and that’s their call. If it doesn’t say it’s paid for, you can take it as read that I’ve written about something because I like it or think my readers will like it. Simple as that. Transparency is important to me. More on that later too…
So, now I’ve covered how I make money, which seems to be the question everyone wants answered (and don’t get me wrong, I can see why you’d be intrigued and that’s fine by me), I’ll continue with my original point about feeling I have to justify/apologise for being a full-time time blogger and making money from it. Deep breath.
I suppose one of the ‘problems’ with blogging is that many people do it for the love of it or as a hobby and don’t make money, so it’s easy to see why it’s not seen as necessarily commercial, professional or indeed hard work. Many people post every now and again for pure enjoyment and I love that everyone has the freedom to do that on a variety of free platforms. No two blogs are the same and it’s hard to talk about blogs in a general sense. I myself blogged for fun and for the love of it for the first 18 months.
Just because many people blog because they enjoy it doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with making money from it though. If you have a big enough readership that people want to pay for a piece of it, and you do so with integrity and professionalism, good for you! I recently saw a post in a blogger forum asking whether people were blogging for the love of it or money, the suggestion being these things are mutually exclusive. I very much got the impression some people felt it was wrong, or had an impact on their integrity if they dared make some money out of their hobby. I simply don’t agree. And I don’t think people should feel ashamed of making money from something they enjoy. It’s the best thing ever!
Now, I’m probably right at the other end of the spectrum from the hobby bloggers and not your typical example. I’m an ex-journalist turned full-time blogger, working (without doubt) more than full-time on turning this into a sustainable business and doing pretty well at it (I’m constantly learning and trying to improve things though and business owners are almost always working on their next big idea to make theirs bigger and better!). As I mentioned earlier, I trained as a journalist and I’ve always been paid to write and edit and help make publications (print and online) more commercially viable, so I see absolutely no reason why now, when I do this for myself and my own publication, I shouldn’t get paid for it too. Is that very unreasonable?
A good friend of mine told me recently that his brother scoffed when he told him I was working as a full-time blogger these days. Now, nobody ever disrespected what I did for a living when I worked as a journalist for other people or when the publication didn’t fall into the sometimes controversial blog category, so why should that be the case now?
There’s definitely a large group of people who turn their noses up at blogs. My fellow journalists can be the worst for this! So much so, I’ll admit I often skirt around calling Interiors Addict a blog and prefer to say website or online publication. And some would say, what it has evolved into, with three posts a day and being very news-based, isn’t what many would consider a blog anymore (but I like to think the personal touch means it still is).
People definitely have an issue with people making money out of their passion too and a lot of that is an unfortunate trait of human nature, in my personal opinion.
People online can be very opinionated and say things they probaby wouldn’t to your face. A few weeks ago, in reply to one of my advertiser emails, a newsletter subscriber sent me a rather blunt email saying something along the lines of “Are you an advertising medium for “insert advertiser name here” now? How very dull.”
Well, um, actually, yes, I am, there’s nothing covert about it. If I’m to do this for my job I need to get paid for it and that’s how it works. Is it really that awful of me?
There was a time I did this for the love of it only, on top of a full-time job and it was really really hard work. With what was akin to two full-time jobs, a relationship, family and friends to divide my attention between, something had to give. Luckily for me (in hindsight), I was retrenched from my job and managed to turn blogging into a job, and I can tell you very confidently that the blog is a LOT better these days as a result. I also know my readers really enjoy and appreciate my blog and I doubt many of them have an issue with me being paid for providing them with a resource they love and find useful.
Last month, I received a lovely email from a reader in response to my third blog-birthday post, saying she got the impression I felt bad about making money from blogging (I hadn’t said as much or thought I was saying as much, but it obviously came across). She said: “As a reader I’m happy that you make money. It doesn’t cost me anything and it makes me feel like I am able to give you something back as you give me so much with the fantastic content you provide to me for free. Also I trust you and I know that you are not going to recommend something just to make a small commission.” That’s what it’s all about, eh?
I work hard (I’m no martyr, I love what I do and I get paid for it), I have high standards, I try my best to provide a great resource and I try to do so with transparency, professionalism and integrity. I don’t think I should feel bad about it, and you know what, I don’t, but it’s a constant battle! I’ve decided it ends now. No more feeling ashamed or dirty about being paid for my hard work and many hours of it. There are much bigger things to worry about in the world!
I hope this post will change a few people’s perceptions of blogs, or just give a little insight into how it all works! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the topic!
Comments
Kirsten Wick says
Great post Jen! Keep up the fantastic work. There’s nothing wrong with blogging and earn your living from it. On the contrary: Doing something you love is the best that can happen actually. Lots of love.xx
Jen Bishop says
It really is the best! I feel fortunate every day!
Daniel_C! says
Hey Jen,
Making money with blogging is logical enough. People who share their advertisements in your blog are doing so because they see business in it. Is it wrong to showcase your product and share information about a particular service or product? I am sure it is not. Then how come making money with blogging can be? Respecting the one who do it for ‘LOVE’ and ‘FUN’ sake, I think it is all about opportunities ( you are lucky to have them unlike others). May be they do it because they aren’t offered anything. The art of mingling passion with work is magical and this is the reason why your words are magic 🙂
Smile and keep it up, Wishing success!
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Daniel. I don’t think it’s that hard to get your head around either! Appreciate your kind words!
Natalie says
I love this post! Good on you x
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Nat! Hope all’s well in your world!
Bianca says
Good bloody on you. That’s all! 😉
Erin says
You go girl!!!!
Jen Bishop says
🙂
Victoria says
So very well said. Congratulations on all your success!
Jen Bishop says
Thank you Toria!
Fay says
I’ve never commented on Interiors Addict before (although I’m a daily reader!), but I just wanted to add my support, and wholeheartedly agree with your emailer. We, as readers, are offered more through your website every week than most magazines provide monthly, and we have to pay for them! I think you do a fantastic job, and congratulate you on your success. Jealousy is a thriving human characteristic, and it’s unfortunate that it is often targeted at people who love what they do. You work hard and produce a high-quality, professional publication, and I’m thankful for it 🙂
Jen Bishop says
What a lovely comment, thanks Fay!
Tori says
Surely there’s done jealousy at play here – people would love to be able to do this themselves!
Jen Bishop says
I understand many people would love to love their job, and how forutnate I am, but also wish more people would be brave enough to chase their dreams. It isn’t easy but it so so worth it if it pays off!
Rhonda Chapman says
Like many have written before, those who turn their noses are feeling one of two things: jealousy (i.e. they wish they could do it too) or threat (they think bloggers could steal their jobs).
Jen Bishop says
I wish people didn’t have to be so mean spirited! I suspect you are right in some cases! Thanks for the comment.
Amanda wilkinson says
This is one of my favourite posts! Good for you for making such a success out of blogging!!
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Amanda. Feels good to get it off my chest!
Kaye Woods says
I was looking for something to keep me inspired
When, from teaching, I finally retired.
I was too young for bowls and too old for tennis
But a perfect social media menace.
Not equipped to be a geriatric jogger
Considered being a Granny Blogger
Because one of the things I love the most
Is writing a story or “poem” for a daily post.
My audience of friends is very small
If I could earn money from this, I wouldn’t mind at all!
Good for you is what I feel
To combine a passion with a living is just ideal!
Jen Bishop says
Love this, Kaye! Thank you!
Chris says
A job is a job, good for you
Jen Bishop says
Indeed it is! 🙂
Susie Pigott says
I feel the same guilt when I charge a design consult fee. I love and live design and for me my appointments are fun. And so thus the guilt I feel when I ask to be paid !
Jen Bishop says
Have stylist friends who say exactly the same, but you shouldn’t only get paid for things which are a chore! Your IP is gold and worth paying for. It comes easy to you but not at all to many others! Remember that!
Emma - My Bespoke Chair says
Jen – beautifully written and argued.
I think all of us who do what we love online and get paid for it, feel at one time or other that we are being judged.
Online also flummoxes some people. They can relate to traditional print but online feels ethereal and wishy-washy to many; a free, hobby environment.
I produce the same products with my online biz that I did at my old bricks-and-mortar shop. People understand traditional retail (by people, I actually mean my parents!! hehehe) but online journalism and retail is often seen as an invisible world of ‘so how does that work then?’
Your tribe understands and appreciates you Jen.
xx Send my love to our green and pleasant land.
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Emma, you are always such a big supporter of Interiors Addict! Funnily enough, I see your business as even more innovative and impressive SINCE it went online!
Emma - My Bespoke Chair says
Me too!
Janelle says
Loved this!! You SO have nothing to be ashamed of…you are an inspiration to the blogging world! :))
Jen Bishop says
That’s very kind, thank you!
Ebby says
Some of the people that I admire most are bloggers (Susie Bubble, The Sartorialist, you!) and, as someone who works in the fast paced world of fashion, bloggers are a godsend! Designers and stylists get a lot of their leads from bloggers- they are the first to spot street trends, they have their eyes and ears on EVERYTHING so never miss a trick with newness, are naturally curious creatures so seeing innovation is a joy to them, they can start a resurgence in a long forgotton about item and brands love them! What better way to get a bit of advertising than having a blogger you admire rave about your products? That shouldn’t be paid for though- bloggers & brands loose all credibility when they pay someone to like something, product placement anyone? Good bloggers make you fall in love with their loves, discover something new and are able to ignite passion in others.
Don’t ever let anyone question your job Jen, I am sure it is born out of jealousy anyway! xx
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Em, that means a lot coming from you, as a mate and as someone who udnerstands the influence of bloggers through your work life. PS. Emailed you some dates a week or so ago. Did you get? x
Annette says
You shouldn’t have to ever apologise for your passion and wage coming from the same place. Utter nonsense!
Do people who become midwives or forensic psychologists because they are passionate about those fields have to apologise? I think not. Do cops or teachers or architects or dancers?
Your blog/website/mag is fantastically professional, yet warm and personalised in tone. That’s something to be bloody proud of.
As for your friend’s brother, he should learn to keep things to himself! Or. Your friend should just stop repeating his silly thoughts.
Congratulations Jen, you’ve built this from an idea in your head. More power to you.
Keep on keeping on!
Annette x
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Annette for your continued support of me and my blog, I appreciate it 🙂 My friend (related to the brother!) was only telling me in as much as he does respect and udnerstand what I do but knows others don’t get it!
Christina @ Hair Romance says
Great post Jen. I can’t tell you the number of times people ask me how I make money, and it’s usually the first or second question they ask too. I’ve also said “I run a website” instead of saying “blogger” for fear of it being a dirty word. Love your frankness and I’m going to stop apologising for loving what I do too.
Jen Bishop says
Yes, let’s unite and stop feeling embarrassed or wrong about it and feel good about working hard and coming up with ideas to build our businesses and succeed at it! you should certainly be SUPEr proud. Love your blog and REALLY loving seeing Mr and Mrs R flourish now too x
Karen says
I think generally people don’t have a clue about what goes into the price of something. Whether that’s your wage – the ‘price’ you’re paid for your time & effort & skill – or a product you’re recommending, or the price of a bottle of milk, people have no idea what their money goes towards. Hello, the $3 you paid for the milk wasn’t just for the milk – it’s for the transport & packaging & refrigerated shelf space & the advertising, among other things. I’d bet that most people couldn’t tell you exactly why their boss pays them their wage, or how their company makes the money to pay them said wage. If they did understand, getting paid for blogging wouldn’t be such a mystery… Love your work.
Jen Bishop says
That’s a really good point Karen, and thanks for your comment. I find since I’ve had my own business, and have to pay out of my own money for the services of other people, who I outsource to, I appreciate what they do and how worth it it is, more than I ever did when I was an employee! I value the time and skills of my accountant, graphic designer, etc, etc and think it worth every penny! Equally, some people balk at my hourly rate for private writing work etc. As far as I’m concerned, if you don’t like it, don’t get me to do the work, I don’t mind at all!
Karen Howes says
Absolutely. Small business is certainly an eye-opener for the real world of economics! And I agree – I’m not the only dressmaker around, and there are plenty of clients who are happy to pay me what I’m worth. If you’re not among that crowd, then I wish you all the best finding the right dressmaker for your needs – but she isn’t me. 🙂
Jen Bishop says
Quite right too. You get to set the price, not them. They can choose someone cheaper if they wish!
hermithomewares says
I have watched your blog go from strength to strength and think this is something you should be extremely proud of. Your content has always focused on informing us about what’s happening, what’s new and what is fabulous in the homewares and design sector. People subscribe and follow your blog for this reason and you never let them down.
All power to you for being able to turn it into a full time, paid job. Don’t let the haters get you down!
Jen Bishop says
I don’t intend to let anyone get me down anymore! Thanks so much for your commment.
Scrapbook of style says
I totally admire that you have been able to make money from your blog. I have just started blogging ‘for fun’ and I have come across the exact opposite response. People around me are constantly asking ‘so, what are you doing this for? Are you looking for a job? Why are you doing it?’ They imply that if it’s not a job then what is the point? So it looks like people will question no matter what! So keep doing what you are doing. U r obviously very good at it!!!
Jen Bishop says
Gah, equally frustrating for you! Thanks for your comment.
Iman says
Great article Jen! Ever since I stumbled upon your blog over a year ago I’ve admired what you’ve done with it and how far you’ve gone. People should be praising you for turning what you love into a job and one that pays you to live a comfortable life (or more). I’m a believer in running your own business – people who own their own business are generally happier than a person that works a standard 9-5. I’m starting a blog soon, thanks for being my inspiration!
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Iman. I can’t imagine working for anyone else ever again! Fingers crossed I won’t have to!
Shah says
Hi Jen, I would describe the phenomenon you are experiencing as ‘Tall poppy syndrome’ (TPS). Wikipedia describes TPS as follows:
Tall poppy syndrome is a pejorative term primarily used in the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Anglosphere nations to describe a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticised because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers.
Loved your post, love what you do, and know you have a whole army of readers who would love to have a few words to some of these criticizers. Next time be sure to send them our way 🙂
Jen Bishop says
You’re so kind Shah, thanks for this and your email 😉
linda says
Jen, don’t let people get to you. You bring so much joy to so many readers each day and add real value. People who condescend or question what you do, simply don’t mean well. However you explain it, (and you really shouldn’t have to), they’re unlikely to change.
We like you just the way you are, doing what you do. You’re inspiring.
Jen Bishop says
Thank you for the kind words. I refuse to let it bother me anymore!
Karen says
Love this!!! It is funny how people think passion and income have to be mutually exclusive, but it probably comes from the amount of people who really want to be doing something they are passionate about but don’t have the guts to give it a shot! Great article!!
Jen Bishop says
It would be a very sad world if it was a requirement to dislike your job to get paid, wouldn’t it?! Thanks for commenting, Karen.
blogjunkie says
Hi Jen, as someone who works with you on the back end I know exactly how you make money: You’re a drug dealer! (the drug being interior design news) 😉
On a more serious note I have seen how hard you work and how dedicated you are to the work you do. In the bell curve of bloggers, you are far to the right of average and DESERVE your success. You’re living the dream because you worked your butt off for it – what’s there to be ashamed about?
As for people not understanding what you do, you have to look at things from the other end. Making words appear on the internet, in their inboxes, advertising deals – these are things the average person wouldn’t understand let alone be able to do. They have no frame of reference so they don’t understand. (P.S. my dad still couldn’t tell you what I do)
So here’s to your continued success. With your work ethic, brains and personality I’m sure you’ll enjoy more of it 🙂
Jen Bishop says
Why thank you, kind sir! And I’m defintiely happy for you to get paid for what you do too 😉
Trish Hunter says
Hi and thanks heaps for posting about this. It’s something that’s almost taboo to talk about and I’m so glad someone has come forward with some honesty.
It really doesn’t help seeing morning television shows & radio stations interviewing bloggers with the angle of ‘oh so you post a photo of your kid and you get paid a full time wage’ sort of attitude. Oh if only it were that easy. People like to hear the story that someone makes a living off doing ‘nothing’ and like to make out that’s what blogging is, however it’s a far cry from that and this highlights it.
I too have struggled calling what I do ‘blogging’ and often just say ‘I’m a writer’ or when people ask how does a blog make money I say ‘in the same way a magazine does, they have a big readership, so does a blog, so there is value there. Magazines only have advertising in it that may be of interest to their readers. Frankie Magazine’s ads are about cute quirky items and businesses. It’s all the same as a blog. Where there are readers, there is a money making avenue.
The people that scoff at what we do are the same people who also scoff when we stop, when our articles aren’t as good anymore or are lacking.
They want us to produce high quality work, regularly, and do it for free. The reality is, that’s impossible. It can take a day just to drive to a location to do the photoshoot for a blog post, never mind the editing, writing, and publishing (etc etc) That just can’t happen if you’re also working a full time job.
Also if these people want these great posts, they can’t happen without good hosting, cameras, editing software, computers, web design, etc etc. There are a lot of costs involved including time that can’t be pulled out of thin air to bring you great reads.
People don’t expect a magazine to be free in shops, so why should our works.
We aren’t charging you to read our content like a magazine does. It’s all free but it can only be free if we can include ads!
I’m about to launch an online magazine myself after blogging since 2008, and I’ve been working 9am-1am every single day on this and will be doing so for probably years to come in order to make this successful. I’d love to know where a full-time job would fit in to the equation, or why on earth it should be ad free.
Again thankyou for writing this and allowing me to reply a vent! 🙂
Much love
Trish xx
Jen Bishop says
Thanks for taking the time to comment Trish and massive good luck with your project!
Rebecca from Wee Birdy says
Bravo. *wild applause*
Jen Bishop says
Thanks Bec xx
Kelly Young (@kellycyoung) says
Great article Jen. A lot of people in the UK don’t understand blogging, thinking it’s just an online journal. The only thing I don’t understand is my utter jealousy that you get to write about what you love everyday and get paid! I’m pleased to say I’ve followed your work from our humble Darlo journalism days and couldn’t be prouder of all you’ve achieved. Kx
Jen Bishop says
Oh thank you sweetheart, that’s so lovely of you to say xx
sarijaneblog says
You are very much appreciated, and I’m sure that goes for the majority! Keep up the great blog, and after just starting my own blog I realise it would be an extreme amount of work to turn it into a paying blog. Even though I have no intention of that! Keep up the amazing work, I believe you deserve every penny! X
shaninottingham says
Helo Sarijaneblog lovely Jill…I see the amount of your followers…and gasp …you too are an inspiration xxx never say never!
kimhoussenloge says
Thanks so much, Jen, for such a wonderfully open and honest post about a topic that lots of us bloggers are faced with these days. I’m a teeny tiny blog compared to yours but I have had the eye rolls and the scoffing too, especially since my blog has started making a little bit of money. I don’t understand why people do scoff at us making money from something we absolutely love to do and why people would begrudge us the opportunity. Blogging fits perfectly with my lifestyle – I homeschool my son and so I need to be available to him throughout the day. We’ve struggled for years on a single income but have made it our priority to homeschool our son. Having a little bit of extra income coming into our household via blogging is starting to give us a little bit more breathing space and help life not be so tight financially all of the time.
Keep doing what you’re doing, Jen. You’re fantastic at it and it’s inspiring for us smaller bloggers to have people like you talk openly about this kind of thing:)
shaninottingham says
Hiya Kim..Shani rare pear studio here…love your response…what is your blog and i will find you!
Lisa Refalo says
I find that some people have issues regarding you making money doing something that you love and enjoy doing. I think unfortunately a lot of it stems from jealously and guilt that they are not following their own dreams. Luckily they are in the minority. There are so many supportive people out there that are encouraging and appreciate what you do, listen to them and ignore the rest. Well done, keep up the good work. I love your blog!
Mrs Woog says
Best job ever! Been full time for a year and I love it. X
Jen Bishop says
Isn’t it just?! 🙂
Caine Hodder says
Thanks for that post Jen! It is inspiring people like you and this blog (which I read daily) that have inspired me to take the leap and study interior design for the career I have always wanted. I recently left the defence force and I am now working full time while studying at ISCD.
Thanks for the inspiration! Please keep it coming! 😉
Jen Bishop says
Oh, that makes me so happy to hear! Thanks for your comment.
Rachille Price says
I interestingly had a customer (who is a blogger) say they felt that once a blogger started to have sponsored posts that it ruined the integrity of the blog.
Though in some ways I can understand this perception I think life is very full and there is a limited amount of time. If blogging had no reward, you would at some point ask if it was still viable to invest the amount of energy and time it takes to manage a blog. My guess is that a lot of people would say no and the internet would be a sadder place for it.
If your content is so good you can make a living off it, I would call that success story.
Jen Bishop says
The thing is, if you clearly state what is sponsored and what isn’t, there isn’t an integrity issue at all if you ask me. Thanks for your comment, it is so interesting getting everyone’s different take on it! 🙂
Liska Turner says
Jen thank you for sharing. You are representative of new a whole new paradigm in how we do business – heart centred entreprenuership. I am not sure if you have come across Marie Forleo, Danielle LaPorte, Darren Hardy or kate Northrup who operate in a different space to you but are fabulous examples and champions of this. keep up the great work!
Jen Bishop says
I have certainly heard of Marie Forleo and I will look into the others. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Shane says
no need to apologise, stay the course and live the dream! 🙂